Listen to Jim Harshaw’s Wrestling With Success podcast interview with me

I had a fantastic conversation with Jim Harshaw for his podcast, Wrestling With Success.
I am honored and humbled that he invited me into the ranks of his guests. I recommend listening to many other episodes besides mine, including his early ones where you get to learn about him. Among other guests, he’s had people in space. I’ve only helped build satellites. Jim is a Division 1 champion wrestler and coach who brings what sports and athletics brings to business and life. In his words, his podcast

uncovers the secrets of the most successful people on the planet who are also former athletes and reveals how they used skills learned in sports to overcome failure and achieve a level of success not otherwise possible. Former athletes are uniquely qualified for success if they learn how to translate lessons learned from sports into life. I help you do this by interviewing former athletes who are proven winners in the wrestling match of life and finding out how they used what they learned from sports to reach success.

Here’s the link to the episode with me, #58 Josh Spodek on the Four Steps to Real Leadership (and what’s missing from most leadership training).

His introduction:

Today I bring you Josh Spodek. A Professor at NYU and columnist for Inc., he holds five Ivy-League degrees, including a PhD in Astrophysics as well as an MBA, both from Columbia University, where he studied under a Nobel Laureate. He holds six patents.He leads seminars in Leadership, Creativity, Sales, Strategy, and Motivation at institutions including Columbia Business School, Harvard, Princeton, Columbia and MIT.

His coaching clients include start-up founders as well as employees of Citigroup, American Express, Google, Yahoo!, Sony, IBM, ExxonMobil, the U.S. Navy, the U.S. Army, and many others. He has been quoted and profiled by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, The Wall Street Journal and others.

He’s completed 6 marathons and competed at the world level in Ultimate Frisbee.

His blog at is for successful people who want to bring about more of that success, which is what we’re going to talk about today.

If you don’t have time to listen to the entire episode or if you hear something that you like but don’t have time to write it down, be sure to grab your free copy of the Action Plan from this episode– as well as get access to action plans from EVERY episode– at

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