Joan Sotkin invited me back to her podcast, Prosperity Place. We mostly spoke about environmental leadership, but it was the first public mentioning of my book coming out in a couple months.

From the podcast page, the highlights:

• People think that acting for the environment is a sacrifice when in fact it’s fun.
• Regarding the environment, leadership by example doesn’t work.
• Josh manages to only throw out one small back of garbage a year! We talk about this.
• He meets people where they are in order to encourage them to change their habits.
• Community motivates culture change.
• Josh aims for measurable results while people enjoy the process.
• The question is, what skills do you develop as you move towards supporting the environment.
• If you don’t do the little things, you’ll never get to the big things.
• Josh’s mental model of Amazon is a big, polluting machine.
• Acting on your values creates community.
• Recycling is only a little better than throwing things out.
• Companies are now talking to Josh about helping them become more environmentally aware.
• When companies start changing there’s a sense of liberation.
• We can’t change the past, what can we do now?
• Use SMART goals.

Here’s my first conversation with Joan, Using Emotions as a Leadership Essential, from September 8, 2017.