Chris Gassman of The Market and the Good podcast posted two episodes with me. The first covered my work in under 10 minutes. Since I described my podcast 4-step process, he chose to try it out, which we did for the second episode, as a deep dive.

Most podcast hosts shy away from being guests on their shows. They tend to feel vulnerable at answering questions, especially about stewardship. Chris went the other way, embracing vulnerability and responsibility, as leaders do.

Check out the episodes: